Being able to debate with Barreketh.

[alliancesjr]

Okay. So the Morality and Religion subforum of Gaia's debate forum is usually comedy gold, right? Plenty of fluffy "wycnas" and people claiming that America is about Christianity. (For more on that, read the preparations for the "Separation of Church and State" thesis that I started and never did anything with.)

Barreketh, though? He is the most famous troll of M&R, being on his tenth iteration (or more!) currently. He proclaims the greatness of Catholicism, Genocide, Fascism with Nazi Leanings (Self-description!), and male supremacy. Debating with him is debating a brick wall, only twice as painful.

Which is why I usually try to have fun whenever I enter the fray.

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AllianceSJR Wrote:

TheCorporatist Wrote: The military doesn't want homosexuals in there either. If I recall correctly, the current policy is "Don't ask, don't tell." That's not exactly homosexual friendly. Actually, the "Don't ask, don't tell" policy was implemented as a means to allow homosexual individuals into the armed forces, which had previously been "YOU GAY? NO WAY!" up until that point. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_ask%2C_don%27t_tell Quote: It was introduced as a compromise measure in 1993 by President Bill Clinton who, while campaigning for the Presidency had promised to allow all citizens regardless of sexual orientation to serve openly in the military, a departure from the then complete ban on those who are not heterosexual. The actual policy was crafted by Colin Powell and has been maintained by Clinton's successor, George W. Bush. The policy is opposed by some pro- and anti-gay advocates alike. While it's still homosexual-unfriendly, it is decidedly less so than previous policy. Yes, discovery of homosexual acts will still lead to discharge*, but under this policy, it is illegal for them to ask. Quote: Congressional opposition to lifting the ban on homosexuals in the armed forces was led by Democrat Senator Sam Nunn of Georgia who organized Congressional hearings that largely buffed the armed forces position that has remained unchanged since the 1981 directive. While Congressional support for reform was led by Democrat Congressmen Barney Frank of Massachusetts, who fought for a compromise, and retired Republican Senator Barry Goldwater, who argued for a complete repeal of the ban. Social conservative interest groups successfully flooded the Congressional phone lines with oppositions to lifting the ban, and for his part, President Clinton soon backed off on his campaign promise to lift the ban on homosexuals in the armed forces. The final result was a Congressional compromise of "Don't ask, don't tell" that was later amended to include "don't harass." Officially, the compromise dictates that the armed forces will no longer ask recruits about their sexual orientation, will not investigate any serviceman or woman's sexual orientation without solid evidence (thus preventing witch-hunts), and homosexual servicemen and women agree that they will not engage in homosexual sex acts, or do anything that announces that they are a homosexual, i.e. public statements or participate in a same-sex marriage. However, the number of homosexuals discharged from the armed forces after the change in policy actually grew, as did reports of harassment and unsuccessful court challenges. (ibid) * - DOES IT EVER! HEYOOOOOO!

I will readily admit that the ability to include such a footnote was the sole purpose of my posting in that thread.

Comments

[beow11.livejournal.com]

Ooh, I detect an essay- writing novice in my midst! I sense great potential in you young one!

(Actually, good job on the quotes. My suggestion is to link to the source material. And more sarcasm please)

;-)

[alliancesjr.livejournal.com]

The source for both quotes is the Wikipedia link above the first one.

Clearly

[icysnowgirl.livejournal.com]

We need more Alli FootNotes. *nod*

[skybreak-seeker.livejournal.com]

Barreketh is a waste of oxygen and potable water.

[alliancesjr.livejournal.com]

But it's so much fun to try to confuse him!

[madsophiehatter.livejournal.com]

If females could get drafted and there was a draft on I would SO TOTALLY spend my day making out with any female I could get my lips/hands on.